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USACE starts Red Run elevation project

July 6, 2017

The USACE starting dumping large quantities of dirt by Dawson Drive and Ryan Road, near the bridge that many cross over , coming to and from the Warren Community Center.  Apparently it started on Wednesday, July 5, 2017 according to nearby resident. A few pictures and additional info is viewable by scrolling down this posting.

The FLOOD PLAIN elevation is 615 ft above sea level , by the actual bridge itself. Ask yourself,  what is your basement laundry drain (spillover drain, in the floor) elevation ? The pipe where the flood came into your homes. Link describes the back-ups into houses.

https://redrundrain.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/typical-house-piping-layout.jpg

A while back, a few of us residents in Warren by the Ryan Road – Red Run Bridge area received a letter from the United States Army Corps of Engineers regarding changing the elevation of the banks of the Open StormDrain Channel in Warren. The contractor was to be RBV Contracting, Inc.

“”A proposed work schedule would be a November 2015 start date with a July 2016 finish date.  Most likely start clearing trees in November 2015, and depending on cold/frozen ground, either continue to work in the winter to have everything completed by the spring 2016 or wait until low flows in the May-July 2016 time frame to do the final work.”

Charles A. Uhlarik
Chief, Environmental Analysis Branch
US Army Corps of Engineers, Detroit
477 Michigan Avenue
Detroit MI 48226-2550

The Letter

After the July 4th, 2017 holiday – the dirt began to be dumped by the Red Run

Warren Community Center.jpg

Heavenly Lane.jpg

Ryan Road Bridge View.jpg

Red Run Drain View A.jpg

Red Run Drain View B.jpg

Large Open Lot.jpg

Bulldozer  1.jpg

Bulldozer  2.jpg

Bulldozer  3.jpg

Notice the 615 elevation line, and the red highlighting (enlarge/zoom the pic if necessary)

Flood Plain Elevation.jpg

According to the USACE via email on Aug 31, 2015

“The berm placement is not for flood prevention. The proposed project is bank excavation to reduce the bank steepness (slope) along 1,100 lineal feet of existing drain bank.  The bank has slumped and discharged sediments into the drain which will affect the end area of the drain and the ability of the drain to adequately discharge flood waters. Approximately 29 cubic yards of sediment will be excavated per lineal foot of drain to reduce the bank steepness and minimize the likelihood of a future bank slump. The toe of slope at the water line will be armored with rock to minimize scouring.  All excavated material will be placed above the 100 year floodplain elevation of 616.4. About 16,000 cubic yards of excavated material will be placed into a reconfigured berm north of the work area and 3,600 yards placed in an “L” shaped configuration at the Ryan Road site located at Ryan and Dawson intersections. Neither of the placement areas are designed as flood protection berms but are sediment placement areas within the drain right of way.  In fact, the excavation to reduce the bank steepness will provide additional flood storage capacity estimated at  about 4 acre feet within the 100 year floodplain. The proposed project has not increased the drainage area of the project or changed the co-efficient of runoff for overland drainage from the right of way.”

Charles A. Uhlarik
Chief, Environmental Analysis Branch
US Army Corps of Engineers, Detroit
477 Michigan Avenue
Detroit MI 48226-2550

Frankly – its odd – as the stormdrains by Dawson and Ryan are under 615 ft elevation

https://redrundrain.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/underground-ryan-road-red-run-bridge.jpg

StormDrain Detail Ryan Road.jpg

When the water level comes up – the stormdrains are submerged – under the water line ?

Take a LONG HARD LOOK at the water finding its’ level when it rains hard

—-click on the link — it is different than the pictures you see —–

https://redrundrain.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/water-finds-its-own-level/

Lateral Drain Red Run Bridge.jpg

https://redrundrain.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/lateral-drain-pipes-house.jpg

Best of luck to everyone, hopefully Warren residents have fewer flooded basements as we move towards 2020 and beyond. Protect yourself with the “proper” insurance riders on your policy. A wet flooded furnace blower motor and washer/dryer could set you back thousands of dollars $.

What did FEMA tell your family  ?  Where are the maps updated, revised, modified to reflect reality of the past 20 years of rain events and wet basements ?

https://redrundrain.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/elevation-ryan-road-bridge-red-run-warren.jpg

Flood Data.jpg

The Flood Area Warren.jpg

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